[MD] Reifying carrots

[MarshaV]

Adrie,   

My point of the quote was as an example of reification.  How it may work.  
Sorry if you thought I was trying to explain the inner workings of quantum 
non-locality to the folks.  

Not a physicist.  Got it!   Since there are many debates still being staged 
within this still evolving quantum science, I'll consider your posts your opinion,
and as prone to contamination as wikipedia.    

I'm an explorer, but do not claim any fields of knowledge as my conquered 
territory.  

Twin Peaks was really, really weird, but I loved it.  I watched the log lady's 
opening once, and it did nothing for me.  


Marsha
 
 
 


On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:40 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:

> "Exalt , well , no, i emhased it virtually to show the point that article's
> like this contain
> falsifications 'an sich' embedded or by association with occult science.
> 
> -concider it or don't, well, leads like this are taking other people towards
> the article without pointing out
> towards the conflicting matters. probably you were not aware of this , and
> probably people following the lead
> are not , but leaving a part out of its contexts in this way is dangerous
> and arose my suspicion.
> 
> And of course , no , i am not a physician, i never said i was , i work in a
> car factory,with my  hands.
> But i'm better than a shitload of them.I was studying all the books you see,
> and i think its a good idea
> for you to do so, this is encouraging.
> Its not a very good idea to jump over the material.
> 
> Like the Bell's theoreme,one has to be aware of all this kind of
> contamination.
> 
> Greetz, the log lady, Burps!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2010/9/18 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> 
>> 
>> Adrie,
>> 
>> 
>> I've posted a lot of stuff.  Consider it or don't.  Maybe the book
>> will arrive today, and I will have more to post.
>> 
>> By the way, are you a physicist?   And why you exalt what
>> you point out?   I don't.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:13 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
>> 
>>> But you forgot the rest of the article Marsha
>>> 
>>> I isolated a part from the article further on as i am very good in
>> Nonlocal
>>> &local reality's.
>>> 
>>> comment on isolated part
>>> 
>>> Their treatment of two-slit interference ranks right up there with (but
>>> differs interestingly from) Feynman’s famous “comes in lumps” approach,
>> and
>>> their nontechnical description of Bell’s theorem is one of the best I’ve
>>> seen, and by far the least mathematical.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 3 problems
>>> trying to ridicule Feynman is not a very good idea, this is adressed at
>> the
>>> autor.
>>> 
>>> The Bell theorem.
>>> The theorem is specifically rejected by most of the scientifical
>>> world,because its a limp home formula.
>>> it is under controverse since it was stated.Its rubbish.
>>> 
>>> MR PIRSIG, specifically rejects the theoreme, in one of his annotations
>> on
>>> LILA'S CHILD,in a earlier stage of history.
>>> He recognised very early that it was crap, and i happen to agree with him
>>> and 99% of science.
>>> PIRSIG rejects it for a reason, this is very easy to find back.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nb, i was already pointing out in a conversation with Mr Buchanan, some
>> time
>>> ago, that PIRSIG rejects the theoreme
>>>     It is still to be found back in the archives, or in the annotations
>>> made upon LILA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> this is only 1 leech to kill, there are more in the article...
>>> sincerely yours , Pontius PILATUS, landlord of judea, the man on the
>>> mountain.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2010/9/18 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> from American Journal of Physics Review of Quantum Enigma:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take space-time, for example. We organize our perceptions into events,
>> and
>>>> for many purposes it is illuminating to represent those events as points
>> in
>>>> an abstract four-dimensional continuum. This is so useful that most of
>> us
>>>> reify this abstract scheme, believing that we inhabit a world that is
>> such a
>>>> four- (or, for a few of us, ten-) dimensional continuum. The reification
>> of
>>>> abstract time and space goes so far back in human history that it’s easy
>> to
>>>> miss the intellectual sleight of hand. The reification of electric and
>>>> magnetic fields is more recent but also came to be taken for granted,
>> until
>>>> it started to unravel (for some of us) with the arrival of quantum
>>>> electrodynamics. The strongest hints of how we have been fooling
>> ourselves
>>>> emerge when we try to reify quantum states, and thereby run into “the
>>>> measurement problem” and “quantum nonlocality.”
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://quantumenigma.com/reviews-our-responses/
>>>> 
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