[MD] Constant
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Sat Sep 18 23:02:39 PDT 2010
Hey! Nice to see you posting, Mark. I do understand that multiple
methods of testing the affects of postulated forces increases the validity
(conventional acceptance/pattern stability) of those unmeasurable
forces.
Marsha
On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:38 AM, 118 wrote:
> Hi All once again.
>
> I see that Marsha asked a question about the speed of light, which led to an
> interesting discussion on physics. Now physics is one of my favorite ways
> of exploring the metaphysical and mystical. One must keep in mind that
> physics can only deal with that which is measurable, and therefore creates a
> simplistic reality which may or may not reflect ones total experience. But,
> the modern constructs of physics certainly do lead to the mystical.
>
> So to start with, the current theory of the speed of light (of course as
> science progresses theories are always replaced by new ones). The theory
> extrapolates to a vacuum, or free space (or whatever you want to call it,
> Nothing There). Of course this could well be impossible for if one takes
> the particle view of the photon, once light is present there is no vacuum.
> So, whatever. But, in this theory as I have just been reading on these
> posts, there is a maximum to its speed. The way I have learned to
> understand this is by switching the relative points and assuming that light
> is stationary, and that we are traveling at its speed. This makes sense to
> me because time is equal to zero at the speed of light (in other words the
> photon is outside of time). So zero time, zero speed. I know, we can find
> all sorts of trouble with this, but I have worked through a lot of it, and
> it requires all sorts of imaginary dimensions and so forth. So the question
> is why are we moving so fast and creating time in the mean time, and why we
> can't move any faster (that is, go slower than zero)? Well it would seem
> that because of the nature of light which comes from all over the place,
> there is really no direction to move in to move faster, so we are stuck at
> this speed. We can of course slow down (currently seen as speeding up to
> the speed of light), whatever that means in this crazy proposition. The
> problem is that as we do so we do so we get incredibly big.
>
> But let's use current physics to explore the mystical. To do this we look
> at gravity (since that seems where the previous dialogue went). Now, there
> is a branch of physics that postulates the existence of the graviton. In
> fact, it must exist according to some. The problem is that the graviton can
> never be measured, because it has no mass. So, since we can't measure it,
> does that mean it doesn't exist? No of course not. Since theory predicts
> it, it could well be hanging around. So what exactly does this graviton do?
> Well, it creates gravity. While we can never ever measure the graviton, we
> can feel its affects. So, we can feel the effects of things that we will
> never be able to measure. Happens all the time.
>
> The last thing I wanted to post about concerning the mystical
> through contemplation of physics is the electromagnetic theory.
> Electromagnetism is the primary force through which we physically interact
> with reality. Now, this theory has been adopted into the quantum club. So,
> what can we meditate about our personal experience through the quantum
> theory. Well, there is quantum stuff going on in our brains at every
> moment. To simplify, this means that particles are moving from on place to
> another without going the distance between. They kind of disappear and
> reappear somewhere else. So where are they when they are not in between?
> There is no doubt in my mind that they are on the "Other Side", something
> the Doors sang about many years ago. So what is this other side? Obviously
> it dramatically impacts what we are aware of right now because our brains
> are full of this quantum jumping. Now we are getting mystical.
>
> Cheers,
> 118
> aka Mark
> aka WillBlake2
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