[MD] Constant

[118]

Hey Andrie,
yea, maybe Frankensteinsaurus physiks.  I don't pretend to be an expert in
quantum.  I was trained in bioelectrochemistry at Imperial College in
London, and have an affinity for that.  I certainly did not mean that
physics was simple, far from it, it just doesn't explain much of what I
experience, Quality for example.  And no, I do not drink, but often feel
drunk. Go figure.

Cheers,
Mark

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:38 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well , i was reading this, and i think i can label it as the birth of a new
> Frankensteinosaurus
> physiks as a simplistic reality, ---best ever , have you been drinking ,
> dude?
>
> 2010/9/19 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com>
>
> > Hi All once again.
> >
> > I see that Marsha asked a question about the speed of light, which led to
> > an
> > interesting discussion on physics.  Now physics is one of my favorite
> ways
> > of exploring the metaphysical and mystical.  One must keep in mind that
> > physics can only deal with that which is measurable, and therefore
> creates
> > a
> > simplistic reality which may or may not reflect ones total experience.
> >  But,
> > the modern constructs of physics certainly do lead to the mystical.
> >
> > So to start with, the current theory of the speed of light (of course as
> > science progresses theories are always replaced by new ones).  The theory
> > extrapolates to a vacuum, or free space (or whatever you want to call it,
> > Nothing There).  Of course this could well be impossible for if one takes
> > the particle view of the photon, once light is present there is no
> vacuum.
> >  So, whatever.  But, in this theory as I have just been reading on these
> > posts, there is a maximum to its speed.  The way I have learned to
> > understand this is by switching the relative points and assuming that
> light
> > is stationary, and that we are traveling at its speed.  This makes sense
> to
> > me because time is equal to zero at the speed of light (in other words
> the
> > photon is outside of time).  So zero time, zero speed.  I know, we can
> find
> > all sorts of trouble with this, but I have worked through a lot of it,
> and
> > it requires all sorts of imaginary dimensions and so forth.  So the
> > question
> > is why are we moving so fast and creating time in the mean time, and why
> we
> > can't move any faster (that is, go slower than zero)?  Well it would seem
> > that because of the nature of light which comes from all over the place,
> > there is really no direction to move in to move faster, so we are stuck
> at
> > this speed.  We can of course slow down (currently seen as speeding up to
> > the speed of light), whatever that means in this crazy proposition.  The
> > problem is that as we do so we do so we get incredibly big.
> >
> > But let's use current physics to explore the mystical.  To do this we
> look
> > at gravity (since that seems where the previous dialogue went).  Now,
> there
> > is a branch of physics that postulates the existence of the graviton.  In
> > fact, it must exist according to some.  The problem is that the graviton
> > can
> > never be measured, because it has no mass.  So, since we can't measure
> it,
> > does that mean it doesn't exist?  No of course not.  Since theory
> predicts
> > it, it could well be hanging around.  So what exactly does this graviton
> > do?
> >  Well, it creates gravity. While we can never ever measure the graviton,
> we
> > can feel its affects.  So, we can feel the effects of things that we will
> > never be able to measure.  Happens all the time.
> >
> > The last thing I wanted to post about concerning the mystical
> > through contemplation of physics is the electromagnetic theory.
> >  Electromagnetism is the primary force through which we physically
> interact
> > with reality.  Now, this theory has been adopted into the quantum club.
> >  So,
> > what can we meditate about our personal experience through the quantum
> > theory.  Well, there is quantum stuff going on in our brains at every
> > moment.  To simplify, this means that particles are moving from on place
> to
> > another without going the distance between.  They kind of disappear and
> > reappear somewhere else.  So where are they when they are not in between?
> >  There is no doubt in my mind that they are on the "Other Side",
> something
> > the Doors sang about many years ago.  So what is this other side?
> >  Obviously
> > it dramatically impacts what we are aware of right now because our brains
> > are full of this quantum jumping.  Now we are getting mystical.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > 118
> > aka Mark
> > aka WillBlake2
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