[MD] Quantum Enigma

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

same page....


  "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum
enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality.  We do not
necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that "reaches
out" and does something physical.


 (((((()))))))) We are describing an enigma, not proposing a
solution."(((((((())))))))))),?,?


Okay, okay, I'll stop..

2010/9/27 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>

>
> same page....
>
>
>   "Our concern is with the"consciousness" central to the quantum
> enigma---the awareness that appears to affect physical reality.  We do not
> necessarily imply that consciousness is a "physical thing" that "reaches
> out" and does something physical.  We are describing an enigma, not
> proposing a solution."
>
>
> Okay, okay, I'll stop...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:49 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >   "We have talked about consciousness but have never fully defined it.
>  Dictionary definitions of "consciousness" are little better than those for
> "physics."  We've been using "consciousness" as roughly equivalent to
> "awareness." or perhaps the _feeling_ of awareness.  It certainly includes
> the perception of free will.  Our use of the term "consciousness" is that
> standard in the treatment of the quantum measurement problem.  (In any
> event, as Humpty Dumpty told Alice:  "When I use a word . . . it means just
> what I choose it to mean," and the philosopher Wittgenstein would more or
> less agree.)
> >
> >   "It is often pointed out that we can know of the existence of
> consciousness in _no_ other way than through our first-person feeling of
> awareness or the second-person reports of others.  (In the following chapter
> we suggest a quantum challenge to this limitation.)
> >
> >   "We will not refer to many of the things found in discussions of
> consciousness from a psychological point of view.  For example, we will not
> talk of optical illusions, mental disturbances, self-consciousness, or
> Freud's seat of hidden emotions,  the _unconscious."
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters
> Consciousness', p.172,2006)
> >
> >
> >
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