[MD] Quantum Enigma

[MarshaV]

Hi Dave, 

I read the paper by Andrew Brook, and well Dave, as you can imagine, the paper 
is way over my head.  I would need to read it once or twice more just to keep the 
vocabulary straight.  But it did seem the the field of 'neuroscience' is a mess.  I am 
still glad I stayed with it for two reasons:  1.)  It referenced the Mary story about the 
color red, though it didn't add or subtract much from the puzzlement, and 2.) I got 
to giggling to think what Krimel could do with the title 'mysterians'. 

If you had a point to make other than to show me how much I do not know, please 
explain it.  If you do not have such a point, then I concede, I don't know much, 
and I certainly don't know it all.   


Marsha   





On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:46 AM, David Thomas wrote:

> On 9/28/10 3:45 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> Everybody in the world may know this but moi, but I find it terribly exciting:
>> 
>> 
>>   "To argue that conscious experience goes beyond ordinary knowing, we are
>> told the story of Mary, a scientist of the future who knows all there is to
>> know abut the perception of color.  But she has never been outside a room
>> where everything is black or white.  One day she is shown something red.  For
>> the first time, Mary _experiences_ red.  Her experience of red is something
>> _beyond_ her complete knowledge of red.  Or is it?  You can no doubt generate
>> for yourself the pro and con arguments that the Mary story provokes."
> 
> Here's a con from a link page by Chalmers who is on the pro side.
> 
> http://http-server.carleton.ca/~abrook/papers/2005-ConscNsc-1CogBrain.pdf
>> 
>>>>>>> (Rosenblum & Kuttner,'Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness',
>>>>>>> p.180,2006) 
> 
>> Somehow this represents the difference between 'probabilities' and
>> 'possibilities,' but don't ask me to explain.
>> 
> 
> And this is Chalmers link page with a wealth of papers on consciousness.
> 
> http://consc.net/mindpapers/1.2g
> 
> Dave
> 


 
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