[MD] The first division of the MOQ. - dynamic or Dynamic Quality?

[MarshaV]

Marsha:
Just as in this quote 'Dynamic' stands for 'Dynamic Quality.'   I'm sure you understand this dmb; this is for Adrie's syntaxis sake.    

"Moreover, Nagarjuna (1966, p.251) shares Pirsig’s perception that the indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the conditioned (or static):"  
      (McWatt, Anthony, 'An Introduction to Robert Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality', 2005, p102)
 
 
 
 
 
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:40 AM, david buchanan wrote:

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> Is this Dynamic which you speak of Dynamic Quality?
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> Yes. "The experiential flux as it is felt and lived" is an alternative way to say "the primary empirical reality" or "pre-intellectual experience". DQ is the immediate flux of life or direct experience prior to the conceptualizations and definitions we subsequently add. 
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> dmb previously:
>>> In the MOQ empirical reality is Dynamic and metaphysics can only ever be secondary and conceptual - and that means metaphysical ideas are intellectual static quality. This is approximately the opposite of your claim.
>>> Before philosophy was born in ancient Greece only the gods were eternal. As philosophy was first forming, one of the main questions asked what was eternal in the affairs of mortals. That's when guys like Plato started inventing the eternal fixed Forms, one of which was the Form of the Good. This is Pirsig's central complaint and his main task is to undo that encapsulation and subordination of Quality, to remove the fixity and rigidity and changelessness that Plato imposed on it and reassert the primacy of the experiential flux as it is felt and lived.
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