[MD] [Bulk] Re: desires

[Andre Broersen]

Mark to Andre:

Are you trying to form an enemy camp?

Andre:
No.

Mark:
I noticed you did not use my whole quote, any reason for that?

Andre:
I thought it summed up your ideas pretty well. I do not see the value of using 'context and intention' when all you seem to see is change. To repeat just two lines: 'Even the way in which the pattern is changing, is changing. Even this change is changing'.

For all I know your context and intention are changing as well, so paying attention to them seems futile.

Mark:
What is with this tactic of bringing in Pirsig bashing?

Andre:
You didn't answer my question, which was: Where does Mr. Pirsig suggest that sq is not real?

Mark:
Yes, the analogy is one of change and persistence.Dynamic quality does not persist as you imply by your construing it as an object in your paragraph above.  I guess this is the static dynamic you are
talking about.  What exactly is that?  I would say that the expressions of the dynamic are incorporated into the static; perhaps the word implication is appropriate here.

Andre:
I took it from LILA, p 119, chapter 9 (in my copy of the book).

Mark:
Yes, dynamic quality is expressed in the emotions.

Andre:
Emotions are a biological response to quality and not the same thing as quality. (Annot. 141 LC)

Andre had said: Where am I doing to hang my hat? to which Mark replied:
Now you are proposing a God in the form of dynamic quality that goes around changing things.  How do we pray to such a thing to bring things into our favor?  Will sacrifices do?  I'm speechless, now you
want children sacrificed.  Wow! Where am I going to hang my hat?

Andre:
What an outburst of hogwash Mark. How on earth you end up with these observations I do not know.

I was referring to the perceived un-reality of sq...you know, a contraption made for putting or hanging one's hat on...you know made of one of those in- or organic patterns of value...which aren't real.