[MD] freewill
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Sun Apr 10 14:26:51 PDT 2011
Hi Ron,
I didn't miss it.
Marsha
On Apr 10, 2011, at 4:48 PM, X Acto wrote:
> Marsha:
> Hello Ron,
>
> I find no reference to craftsmanship or the code of art in the entire paper.
> But I suppose you will interpret as you will.
>
>
> Ron:
> Hello Marsha,
>
> I'm affraid you missed the part where I explained about trying to link up
> ideas in a continious manner which support one another over as much
> of Pirsigs work as I can.
>
> I thought it was obviouse that
> Craftsmanship in writing is extended to craftsmanship in motorcycle maintenance
> in
> the novel "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." Which used most of the
> same quotes
> in the paper.
> You will find many quotes about craftsmanship and art in Zmm.
> and how we can apply it to all facetts of our lives.
>
> Paper:
> " One can thunder as
>> loudly for this definition of quality as the other. It makes no
>> difference as long as we all know what quality is.
>>
>> A seeming inability to directly perceive quality is sometimes
>> known as "squareness." Squareness results from two habits of mind~
>> intellectualism and conservatism."
>
> More:
>
> If students know what quality is why is their writing so bad?
>>
>> There are many reasons. Some are square. Some do not care.
>> Some, because of poor instruction, do not know that they know what
>> quality is. Many students have been brainwashed into believing that
>> only instructors know what quality is. Often when a student realizes
>> for the first time that he really does know what quality is in writing
>> he also begins to care for the first time.
>>
>> A third reason why student writing is so bad even though
>> students know what quality is, is that an ability to recognize good
>> writing comes much easier than an ability to produce it. Usually
>> students can discern between good and bad writing without being able
>> to write well. But if a student cannot discern quality in his own
>> writing there is no hope for him -- no method in the world will ever
>> help him learn how to write. That is Why I believe pure quality should
>> be taught before any methods of producing it are taught."
>
>> Sincerely,
>> Robert M. Pirsig
>>
>
>
>
> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
___
More information about the Moq_Discuss
mailing list