[MD] freewill

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Apr 11 12:21:55 PDT 2011


On Apr 11, 2011, at 3:18 PM, MarshaV wrote:

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> On Apr 11, 2011, at 3:12 PM, david buchanan wrote:
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>> Horse said to Marsha:
>> I think Pirsig is using the term 'fiction' here in the same way that one would use the term 'illusion'. An illusion is real enough in that we don't have to see it as something that doesn't exist - it just doesn't exist in the way we think it does. The 'I' is illusory, not fictitious. Big difference.
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>> dmb says:
>> Right, Marsha is reading the rejection of the Cartesian conception of self as a rejection of ANY conception of the self.
> 
> Marsha:
> I did not even use the word rejection.  Both self and static patterns of value are illusions, but they are useful.  


Marsha:
And in the quote it was RMP that used the word fiction, as does Anthony in the Textbook by using the term 'useful fictions.'  


 
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