[MD] Frewill

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Hi Joe,
While you are longing DQ, I am living it.  Your clown tears streak your face.
Mark

On Tuesday, April 12, 2011, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Dan and All
>
> As I read your response to Arlo, I am in tears.  The longing for the MOQ
> that is contained within your words is breathtaking.  DQ/SQ, the longing is
> DQ, no way to define it.  I wish, in some way, that evolution could be
> explored with the same reverence for Pirsig's endeavors.
>
> Joe
>
> On 4/11/11 12:04 PM, "Dan Glover" <daneglover at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>> Arlo:
>>> To clarify, I'd say that Pirsig's ideas don't evolve (unless HE changes his
>>> mind or something), but the overall foundation he built does evolve as other
>>> voices contribute and disagree, etc. Again, the issue is not whether the one
>>> (Pirsig's voice) is better/worse than the many (other voices in response),
>>> but which of these you call "The MOQ". All along you've been saying the
>>> former (Pirsig's voice) is "The MOQ", but this doesn't change, and can't
>>> evolve (unless he does).
>>
>> Dan:
>> Yes, I think I agree. Which is why (in my opinion) he may have used
>> the term "the MOQ says" rather than "I say" or "Robert Pirsig says."
>> In this way, he is lending a Dynamic Quality to his work that allows
>> it to evolve and change for the better, whereas a purely static "I
>> say" is bound to wither, grow old, and die eventually.
>>
>> Intellectually, the MOQ is Robert Pirsig's idea. And as this is an
>> intellectual discussion of that idea, we should attempt to be
>> consistent with it, even as we Dynamically attempt to enhance it and
>> expand it.
> <snip>
>
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