[MD] freewill

[MarshaV]

Thanks Arlo, but you ignored my: 

"Read Wittgensstein's 'Tractatus' and then let's speak about coherency.  How about Nietzsche's 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra'?  I'm not buying your line of baloney." 

    and the p.s. 

"Walter Kaufmann writes that if one reads Kant in his original German, his books are chocked full of contradictions."

When you start cutting and pasting to your own benefit, it is time to say "Adiós.."  


Marsha, 
    the befuddled 




On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Marsha]
> It makes no difference to me.  Either is fine with me.  It seems trivial to me the way you present it.
> 
> [Arlo]
> It would be trivial, if we speaking simply of the narrative device. Sadly, we are not. Your continued investment here means you do NOT think the distinction is trivial, indeed, you're need for interpretative legitimacy mandates "The MOQ says" over "Pirsig says".
> 
> [Marsha]
> And don't confuse saying something coherently, with saying anything of value.
> 
> [Arlo]
> No, but things spoken coherently are easy to pass value judgements on. Befuddled incoherence masquerading as "wisdom" has no real refutation other than to point out what it is.
> 
> [Marsha]
> I do not feel a need to conform to a particular standard of what is considered acceptable rhetoric by a language nerd.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Of course not, its clear you use words to mean whatever you want them to. Like I said, I don't know if you genuinely believe that incoherence evidences wisdom, but it does not.
> 
> [Arlo had said]
> Again, there is a difference between an artful mastery of language, and a befuddled incoherence.
> 
> [Marsha]
> Without knowing the topic, or the audience, your comments are  meaningless.
> 
> [Arlo]
> One does not need to know a topic or an audience to know there is a great difference between artful mastery of language and befuddled incoherence, but I understand why you can't see it.
> 
> As for calling me "naive", well since you equate incoherence and confusion with "wisdom", I'll take that as a compliment. I'll stay on the "naive" side with the artful and elegant speakers of precision and clarity, like the Lama, and you can stay on your "wise" side with the confused and incoherent.
> 
> And on that note, I'm done, final word is all yours.
> 
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