[MD] Frewill

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Mark nd all,

I prefer to see emotions as a level in evolution.  Since they are
indefinable, in a DQ/SQ metaphysical division they can only be DQ.

Joe


On 4/13/11 8:49 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joe,
> 
> Ideas are emotions put to language.  This is the impact of the
> societal level on our individual level.  We do not put ideas to words
> unless we want to communicate them.   This is one of the errors that
> are made in equating so much with static quality.  It only becomes
> static when one puts it to words and enters into the social level.
> Otherwise words are not necessary.  Most of our thoughts are wordless,
> and as such it is hard to differentiate them from what you call
> emotions.
> 
> Only a small fraction of our thoughts are brought to the attention
> level, and this is for societal or communication purposes.  Most
> thoughts reside in what you may call emotions.  What would you call an
> idea that has no words?  Perhaps such a thing does not make sense to
> you, but at least think about it.
> 
> I have no problem with your abstraction of the emotional level, but
> perhaps I don't see it the same way that you do.  Most ideas are
> emotions.  They happen before you place attention on them.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Ideas are not emotions.  To deny the emotional level in evolution DQ/SQ
>> makes definition a metaphysical principle rather than the more comprehensive
>> evolution in existence.
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/12/11 4:13 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Joe,
>>> While you are longing DQ, I am living it.  Your clown tears streak your
>>> face.
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2011, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Dan and All
>>>> 
>>>> As I read your response to Arlo, I am in tears.  The longing for the MOQ
>>>> that is contained within your words is breathtaking.  DQ/SQ, the longing is
>>>> DQ, no way to define it.  I wish, in some way, that evolution could be
>>>> explored with the same reverence for Pirsig's endeavors.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>> 
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