[MD] Emotions for Joe
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Sun Aug 7 09:27:43 PDT 2011
Hi Mark,
This was primarily a post by Ian.
Marsha
On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:22 PM, 118 wrote:
> Hi Marsha,
> I would present your statement in reverse. "I am therefore I feel my
> emotions." This is where Descarte got it wrong and sidetracked
> Western Logic. "I think therefore I am" should have been "I am
> therefore I think". This is obviously much more logical. We have to
> be to think. We cannot think that we are. We are also not what we
> think (what we eat maybe).
>
> You do point to a correct interpretation of "I", in that I owns both
> the brain and body, and is therefore neither. Of course you knew this
> from your readings of Buddhism.
>
> So, we are ultimately in agreement.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Ian Glendinning
> <ian.glendinning at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Marsha asked
>> "What role do emotions play in consciousness?"
>>
>> Well, our consciousness (the bundle of patterns that is us) are
>> conscious of them.
>> I feel my emotions therefore I am.
>> (What happens next depends on how you use your brain / body.)
>>
>> BTW - I just blogged the clip you linked and also linked back to my
>> earlier piece on Haidt's Happiness, and noticed Damasio featured
>> heavily there too. I made a throwaway remark a few weeks ago that
>> there really wasn't very much contentious left to be understood in the
>> brain / mind workings these days - even things like "will" - one of
>> the reasons I get frustrated when we continually recycle old debates.
>> I still "feel" that's true.
>>
>> Haidt is/was (almost) a total Buddhist, but just pulled back to a
>> position of dynamic balance in his conclusions.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ian
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