[MD] Hot Stoves and What To Do About Them

[Steven Peterson]

Hi dmb,

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:15 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> involuntary |inˈvälənˌterē|adjective1 done without conscious control : she gave an involuntary shudder.• (esp. of muscles or nerves) concerned in bodily processes that are not under the control of the will.• caused unintentionally, esp. through negligence : involuntary homicide.2 done against someone's will; compulsory : a policy of involuntary repatriation.
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> unconscious |ˌənˈkän sh əs|adjectivenot conscious : the boy was beaten unconscious.• done or existing without one realizing : he would wipe back his hair in an unconscious gesture of annoyance.• [ predic. ] ( unconscious of) unaware of : “What is it?” he said again, unconscious of the repetition.
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> unpremeditated |ˌənpriˈmedəˌtātid; -prē-|adjective(of an act, remark, or state) not thought out or planned beforehand : it was a totally unpremeditated attack. See note at spontaneous .
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> spontaneous |spänˈtānēəs|adjectiveperformed or occurring as a result of a sudden inner impulse or inclination and without premeditation or external stimulus : the audience broke into spontaneous applause | a spontaneous display of affection.• (of a person) having an open, natural, and uninhibited manner.


Steve:
I'm not sure what your point is. Are you contending that in the hot
stove example Pirsig is describing a willed act?

will
1
a. The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides
upon a course of action: championed freedom of will against a doctrine
of predetermination.
b. The act of exercising the will.
2.
a. Diligent purposefulness; determination: an athlete with the will to win.
b. Self-control; self-discipline: lacked the will to overcome the addiction.
3. A desire, purpose, or determination, especially of one in
authority: It is the sovereign's will that the prisoner be spared.
4. Deliberate intention or wish: Let it be known that I took this
course of action against my will.
5. Free discretion; inclination or pleasure: wandered about, guided
only by will.
6. Bearing or attitude toward others; disposition: full of good will.
7.
a. A legal declaration of how a person wishes his or her possessions
to be disposed of after death.
b. A legally executed document containing this declaration.