[MD] Hot Stoves and What To Do About Them

[John Carl]

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> dmb says:
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>  He's saying the mystics will get off the stove first because they tend to
> be in closer contact with that pre-conceptual flux of life. For James and
> Pirsig, that's reality and the concepts that follow are only good to the
> extent that they successfully operate in that reality, in the flux of life.
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> John says:

I refuted this point earlier and didn't get nearly the interesting
discussion that is being exhibited now, but my point was that Cooks who are
aware of their surroundings and have vast experience with hot stoves are the
ones who will pop off the most quickly.  Their experience guides their
reactions.  Mystics are a bunch of air-heads who often are lost in their own
dreams to the extent that they don't even know when they're sitting on a hot
stove.

And there's no such thing  as "pre-conceptual".

John