[MD] Hot Stoves and What To Do About Them

[MarshaV]

Greetings John and Steve,  

On Aug 11, 2011, at 12:22 PM, John Carl wrote:


> John:
> And there's no such thing  as "pre-conceptual".



Marsha:
In Zen there is talk of satori or kensho, where:

	"the practitioner finally breaks through the barrier 
	of rational intellection to the realm of preconceptual 
	and prelinguistic consciousness variously called pure 
	consciousness, no-mind, without-thinking, or emptiness."   

Are you denying such a state is possible?  


  
Marsha  
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
___