[MD] Evil in the Church of Reason

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Dearest Ham,

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ham Priday <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Joe used the word "undefined" in stating his quandary.  Pirsig; however,
> used the term "indefinable" consistently when describing DQ.  There is a
> significant difference in meaning between these two words.  What is
> "indefinable" can NEVER be defined, whereas something that is "undefined"
> today may be defined tomorrow.  So your example of awareness as "the process
> of defining" does not address his problem which is: "How can I know the
> indefinable?"

Mark:
Much as I like to try to figure out what Joe is saying, you are being
misled.  His problem is easily addressed.  He can know the indefinable
by not defining it.  And I am not being facetious with that.  Think
about it.  Do you know Beauty or do you have to define it first?
>
> If, indeed, DQ is both indivisible and undefinable, as well as unknowable,
> how can it be divided into definable patterns of static quality?

Mark:
Yes exactly.  If DQ is all of those things, then what are we doing
writing about it.  It is like writing about a phantom of a phantom.
DQ is not divided into sq, it expresses sq.  There is a big difference
there.  The Sun expresses sunlight, it is not divided into bits of
sunlight.
>
> Surely you [Dan] must see that there is a lack of clarity in the meaning and usage
> of these "quality" terms.

Mark:
No doubt messy.  This is the beauty of the internet.  However, is it
possible that from Chaos comes Order?  Where is our fearless leader
when we need him.  Is he hiding out somewhere, or is he one (or more)
of the avatars herein simply trolling for another book?  Flotsam and
Jetsam, all of it, I say!
>
> Can you provide a simple, logical answer to my questions, Dan?   Or are such
> answers presumed to be forever hidden in the mystical nature of Quality
> itself?

Mark:
Ham, give me some of your "questions about Quality", I will have no
problem giving you some kind of an answer to them, mystical or not.
By the way, are you defining Quality with "mystical nature"?  Tut tut,
Ham, you know better than to break the RMP rules...
>
Yours truly,
Marco?.......Polo!  (The blind terrorizing the meek)
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