[MD] self: agent of action & thinker of thoughts

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Marsha previously]
_Sunyavada_ includes all conceptions of reality including metaphysikal views,
ideals, religious beliefs, hopes and ambitions; in other words,using moq
terminology, static quality patterns.

[Arlo responded]
Right, these "things" are all patterns of value. Again, "all conceptions"
includes the "self", which is a pattern of value.

[Marsha]
No, I do not agree.  The statement is that static quality, not s/o, is equal to
sunyavada (world of maya).  

[Arlo]
I have no idea how you've interpreted my statement into "s/o=maya". Of course,
all the things in the list you mention are patterns of value (static quality
patterns). "All conceptions", includes the conception of "self", which is a
pattern of value.

Or maybe you were confused by my condensing the list you provided;
"metaphysikal views, ideals, religious beliefs, hopes and ambitions", into
"these 'things'", how else would you abbreviate it? I used scare quotes to show
I was talking about the "things" (understand?) you mentioned, not "things" in
an abstract S/O existential view.