[MD] The Relativist's journey

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Marsha and Mark,

I do not know how you envision evolution, language?  Pirsig changes the
status of "Quality" from a adjective, relative existence, in SOM to a noun,
DQ indefinable existence, in MOQ.

What is the logic supporting this change?  It can only be some change in a
reality of existence like evolution not simply definition since DQ/SQ
describes a metaphysics of existence, not simply a correction to SOM's real
and intentional existence in terms of quality.  Are there adjectives, nouns
etc. in the MOQ?  How does logic change from SOM to MOQ?

For myself I am content to accept levels in existence, evolution, as a
reality of DQ/SQ metaphysics.

Joe




On 12/2/11 11:39 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> Hello Mark,

I know you've said that you are sick of the sutras, but the Heart
> Sutra explains that 'Emptiness is form, form is emptiness'.  I understand the
> relationship between DQ/sq to be the same.  But this can be, should be,
> experienced not just conceptualized.  There seems to be middle degrees between
> being a Buddha and being comatose or a newborn baby.  It's been said by many
> that it is right there in front of you, something you've always known.  And
> you don't need mind-altering drugs.  Maybe it helps to find encouragement from
> someone we think we can trust, from someone whose explanation seems real
> enough to seem possible.  

But you think on it.  And then stop thinking for
> long enough to see.


Marsha