[MD] The Relativist's journey
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Sun Dec 4 02:16:11 PST 2011
Hi Joe,
I am also content to accept evolution as one of the highest working
intellectual hypotheses. It's seems a might fine pattern.
Marsha
On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
> Hi Marsha and Mark,
>
> I do not know how you envision evolution, language? Pirsig changes the
> status of "Quality" from a adjective, relative existence, in SOM to a noun,
> DQ indefinable existence, in MOQ.
>
> What is the logic supporting this change? It can only be some change in a
> reality of existence like evolution not simply definition since DQ/SQ
> describes a metaphysics of existence, not simply a correction to SOM's real
> and intentional existence in terms of quality. Are there adjectives, nouns
> etc. in the MOQ? How does logic change from SOM to MOQ?
>
> For myself I am content to accept levels in existence, evolution, as a
> reality of DQ/SQ metaphysics.
>
> Joe
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> On 12/2/11 11:39 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mark,
>
> I know you've said that you are sick of the sutras, but the Heart
>> Sutra explains that 'Emptiness is form, form is emptiness'. I understand the
>> relationship between DQ/sq to be the same. But this can be, should be,
>> experienced not just conceptualized. There seems to be middle degrees between
>> being a Buddha and being comatose or a newborn baby. It's been said by many
>> that it is right there in front of you, something you've always known. And
>> you don't need mind-altering drugs. Maybe it helps to find encouragement from
>> someone we think we can trust, from someone whose explanation seems real
>> enough to seem possible.
>
> But you think on it. And then stop thinking for
>> long enough to see.
>
>
> Marsha
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