[MD] The Relativist's journey

[MarshaV]

Hi Mark,

Evolution is a high value intellectual static pattern.  Do you really want to criticize me for saying that too?


Marsha




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On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:49 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> And this coming from somebody who doesn't understand Evolution is high
> support indeed.  I suppose ignorance is a fine pattern indeed.  Your
> Faith is astounding, and perhaps just right for you.
> 
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:16 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> I am also content to accept evolution as one of the highest working
>> intellectual hypotheses.  It's seems a might fine pattern.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha and Mark,
>>> 
>>> I do not know how you envision evolution, language?  Pirsig changes the
>>> status of "Quality" from a adjective, relative existence, in SOM to a noun,
>>> DQ indefinable existence, in MOQ.
>>> 
>>> What is the logic supporting this change?  It can only be some change in a
>>> reality of existence like evolution not simply definition since DQ/SQ
>>> describes a metaphysics of existence, not simply a correction to SOM's real
>>> and intentional existence in terms of quality.  Are there adjectives, nouns
>>> etc. in the MOQ?  How does logic change from SOM to MOQ?
>>> 
>>> For myself I am content to accept levels in existence, evolution, as a
>>> reality of DQ/SQ metaphysics.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/2/11 11:39 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Mark,
>>> 
>>> I know you've said that you are sick of the sutras, but the Heart
>>>> Sutra explains that 'Emptiness is form, form is emptiness'.  I understand the
>>>> relationship between DQ/sq to be the same.  But this can be, should be,
>>>> experienced not just conceptualized.  There seems to be middle degrees between
>>>> being a Buddha and being comatose or a newborn baby.  It's been said by many
>>>> that it is right there in front of you, something you've always known.  And
>>>> you don't need mind-altering drugs.  Maybe it helps to find encouragement from
>>>> someone we think we can trust, from someone whose explanation seems real
>>>> enough to seem possible.
>>> 
>>> But you think on it.  And then stop thinking for
>>>> long enough to see.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
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