[MD] Comparing

[118]

Marsha,
I think that if you question your assertion of the Permanence of
change and impermanence your certainty may dissolve.  It is a form of
clinging.

It is not this, not that.  Remember?  It is a jump.  It is the sound
"Boing, Boing, Boing" without any concepts associated with it.  It is
Mu.  It is Here, it is Now.  It is cooking in your home town.

You can't read about It in books.  You can create It all on your own.

Cheers,
Mark

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:53 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:31 AM, "Carl Thames" <cthames at centurytel.net> wrote:
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com>
>> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Relativist's journey
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>>> So, let me ask you a different question:
>>> What is it deep down inside you (and possibly many others) that causes
>>> you to want to compare everything?
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>> I've spent some time on this one, and I've pretty much come to the realization that we're wired for pattern recognition.  When we see something we've never experienced before, we immediately try to categorize it based on those things we HAVE experienced.  I think this is part of a survival thing with us.  We can tell at a glance if "x" is dangerous to us or not.  If we take the time, we can refine that which allows us to tell a garter snake from a crate snake, but you get the idea.  Our first reaction is SNAKE = BAD!  Pattern recognition.  Of interest, I have heard the argument that the reason time seems to pass more quickly as we age is that we have a larger catalog, and we don't have to spend time figuring things out.  After enough years, we've "been there, done that" and already know what it's about, so we don't slow down and think about it.  If we allow ourselves to become lazy, (guilty) we do the same thing with concepts.  We've heard something similiar, therefore we c
>  ategorize the new idea into an old category.
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>>> No, not a trick question, a question requesting understanding on my
>>> part.  Relativism is only one way of looking at things, imo.
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>> No, not a trick question, and IMHO a very relevant one.  How do we handle a confrontation with DQ?  Do we immediately assign it to an SQ value?  I think we do, or we couldn't comprehend it at all.
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>>> Cheers,
>>> Mark
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>> Just another opinion....
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>> Carl
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> Consciousness, conceptualization, and thus begins the process of reification: self and other.  Disconnecting the experience as process, freezing it against the process of change and impermanence, disconnecting it from its parts to make it independently exist, isolating it from its relationships to see it as an independent manageable thing or concept.
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> Mark may have another perspective.
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