[MD] The Hero's journey

[Matt Kundert]

There are a lot of things, I find, that you find it difficult to consider.

As always,

> From: valkyr at att.net
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:34:46 -0500
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Oh, I thought it might also be a writer's exercise for character development.  Difficult to consider it's a style to move the conversation towards getting "unstuck". 
> 
> Have fun.  
> 
> Marsha
> 
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Matt Kundert <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Yeah, you might have me there.  I hope not most of my posts, but I 
> > do think that a different style would behoove certain modes of 
> > conversation.  I'd like to hope I'm a good reader of differing genres 
> > and styles, but I also hope to balance a stylistic egalitarianism with 
> > an understanding of how form impacts content.  If that deserves a 
> > wow, then I guess.
> > 
> >> From: valkyr at att.net
> >> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:07:36 -0500
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey
> >> 
> >> No Matt, not authoritarian.  I consider most of your posts to be your project to gloss your style to the point of magniloquence.  
> >> 
> >> Marsha 
> >> 
> >> On Dec 12, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> Well, I don't know, Marsha.  If one dancer is trying to slow dance 
> >>> and the other is trying to salsa, isn't okay sometimes for one person 
> >>> to speak up and say, "Why don't you pick a dance that we can both 
> >>> dance to..."?
> >>> 
> >>> Why did you read me as being authoritarian?
> >>> 
> >>> And what is the virtue of the stuck-state of Dan and I's conversation?  
> >>> Being stuck can be good, as you quote Pirsig, but I think it will only 
> >>> seem that way retrospectively, after one has figured out just how, in 
> >>> fact, that it was a true and profound stuckness, and not just regular 
> >>> stuckness.  If you can see how to transcend my inability to 
> >>> understand how Dan conceives of the philosophical area we've been 
> >>> discussing, in a way that Dan recognizes as the area he's been trying 
> >>> to occupy, then I'm all ears.  I haven't found it, and so am not sure 
> >>> whether this is profound or regular.
> >>> 
> >>> If I misunderstood the import of your remarks, I apologize.
> >>> Uu
> >>> Matt
> >>> 
> >>>> From: valkyr at att.net
> >>>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:32:21 -0500
> >>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hey Dan,
> >>>>> [I began this post before you finished your own reply--you'll see the 
> >>>>> change-over, and perhaps the reason why I didn't reconfigure my 
> >>>>> response.]
> >>>> 
> >>>> Matt,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Wow, the conversation goes forward, but by your determination of format?   
> >>>> 
> >>>> "If your mind is truly, profoundly stuck, then it might be much better off than when it was loaded with ideas"  
> >>>>    (RMP, ZAMM, Chapter 24) 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Marsha