[MD] emptiness

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Hi Marsha,
What I do is treat the mind like some background noise, and refuse to
get caught up in it.  In this way I make it both benign and trivial.
It can talk all it wants, but I don't have to pay attention.  It is
not me, but some workings of the brain.  So, I say:  "that's nice
brain, but I am really not interested" and tune it out.  It keeps
going, but I have no idea what it is saying.  Once I realized that the
brain was on autopilot, it became easier for me.

I have heard it called Thinking but not Thinking.  I call it thinking
but not paying attention.

Mark

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:32 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Hi Mark,
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> It can be so hard to start a meditation practice.  In the beginning the mind is so active and restless.  One must endure a lot of frustration until it begins to calm down, but eventually it does calm down.  Eventually it does calm down.
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> Marsha
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> On Dec 19, 2011, at 12:43 PM, 118 wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
>> A flash perhaps, but one has to prepare for it.  That is what the teachings of Buddhism are for, else wise they would not exist.  Mindfulness is one technique, I am glad that you like it, but it is not an end result, IMO.  Buddhism is verified in the same way everything is.  It is the gathering of satisfactory evidence.
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>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>> Mark
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>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 12:13 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Hello Mark,
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>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 2:39 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> My suggestion is that you read a few comprehensive books on Buddhism
>>>> before you begin to try to analyze it.  I am sure that Marsha has some
>>>> good web sites for people such as Wallace.  He is trying to create a
>>>> Western Buddhism that we can perhaps understand.  However, those
>>>> interested are going to have to unlearn an awful lot.  All the
>>>> schooling we have been indoctrinated with from a very young age does
>>>> leave its mark.
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>>> The best justification for Buddhism is found in the verification discovered through the practice of meditation/mindfulness.  If the Buddha taught anything, it was mindfulness.  You can unlearn everything in a flash, that is the beginning of awakening, imho.  Do you disagree?
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>>> Marsha
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