[MD] Dog Dishes and Direct Experience

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Sat Dec 31 13:57:05 PST 2011


Hi Joe,

Matt said:
The quickest way, perhaps, to articulate the thought behind this is to 
point at the unboundedness of Quality/DQ.

Joe said:
When I read the sentence below [above], I immediately thought of 
conceptual reality and decided "unboundedness of Quality/DQ" 
eviscerates metaphysics and throws me into a faith mode.  Evolution 
as the format of intelligibility is a boundary of order or knowledge if 
you prefer.

Matt:
Kinda' like I just responded to Mark, I don't think broadening the 
notion of "faith" to such an extent is very useful for very long.  In this 
case, I would say that the unboundedness of Quality/DQ eviscerates 
_Platonic_ metaphysics, a particular conception of how reality works.  
This particular conception, first given explicit and quasi-systematic 
form by Plato, is the notion that whatever account of reality we 
create can comprehensively circumscribe all of its temporal 
manifestations.  (This is, essentially, omniscience, but it also includes 
the quest for absolute certainty.)  Once one kicks the habit of thinking 
that's a good way of thinking about one's account of reality, though, it 
is unclear to me why account-giving (i.e. metaphysics) becomes 
eviscerated or impossible or impotent, which is what such a 
broadened notion of Faith seems to suggest.

Matt 		 	   		  


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