[MD] Quality and the Higgs Field: An Analogy

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On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jan-Anders <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>
> I think Mark is regarding Quality as some general concept of moral working
> straight through all the levels and even into a coming fifth and also as the
> source of itself? (right Mark?)

[Mark]
Quality is what provides human choices.  It is what differentiates one
thing from another.  At the inorganic level, we can also say that
choices exist, just not in the human way.  That is not using some kind
of neural network or feedback from the body as a whole.  At the
cellular level, such choices impact the intellectual choice.  This can
be illustrated by the neuronal choices involved in firing a pattern
which becomes a thought. Such firing cannot be dictated by some higher
level, because it is neurons all the way up.  The interaction with the
environment provides such choices.  Such choices are directed by
Quality, at least the biological interpretation of such.

It is difficult to provide an overview of the intellectual level,
since we do not exist at that level.  We exist at the independent
biological level.  What choices the intellectual level makes is not a
product of individual intellects.  It encompasses the direction and
ebb and flow of such intellects, but stands outside of it.  Such
intellectual morality is different from individual biological morality
in its expression, but is all the same thing from the outside
(wherever that is).  This would be comparable to the human moral level
standing outside individual cell morality.  But both are ultimately
the same thing, and differ only in expression.
>
[JA]
> I think that what RMP calls the Quality, arete, rta, dharma and more, is a
> balance in three ways, a balance of Energy amount, dynamic/static Pattern
> and relational Value. There are fundamental conditions out there which are
> separating the possible from the impossible and as long as anything there
> is, keeps the balance, it will "be good" and continue to exist.

[Mark]
In this case, Quality would symbolize the driving force of quality,
but not the individual static representations.  Dynamic Quality can be
said to have direction, it is why we do what we do.  However, we each
do it in our own way.  There  is no absolute truth associated with
Quality.
>
[SNIP]
I enjoy reading your mathematical treatment of Quality and the drive
towards integers or whole numbers.  I will have to think about it some
before responding as to whether it presents Quality to me.

Thanks,
Mark
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