[MD] God is cheese

[X Acto]

I have been following Ham's discussion with Mark:

[Mark]:
>Wow Ham, this is a loaded question.  This could hijack the
>conversation into who knows what, perhaps our definition of an
>undefinable.  Now, you do ask for a personal understanding of God.
>This could be that God is Cheese, which would be a valid answer
>since it is personal.  If you are asking for a religion, then this is not
>the right forum for that.

Ham replies:
Why is this not an appropriate question for a philosophy forum?  We see 
discussions of physics, art, music, politics, Buddhism, and intellectualism 
on the MD.  Philosophy is the search for an understanding of reality and its 
meaning through a study of fundamental beliefs.  Of course one's belief in a 
creator is "personal"; but if beliefs are not fundamental to this search, I 
don't know what is.  If Pirsig's Quality thesis is not a statement of his 
personal belief, then we are all deceived.  Frankly, I think this is the 
perfect forum in which to discuss the reality of God.

Ron:
Ham has a point here although the only discussion he will entertain
is his own belief system as a matter of common sense.

That having been said, the matter of the discussion of the "reality of God".

The focus of the discussion lies within how Ham comprehends this notion,
namely he contextualizes the idea within an objective framework making
the discussion at odds from the start. Which is why this discussion has
yielded little in the past on this particular forum.

To discuss the idea of "God" and the "reality" of the concept the notion of 
objectivity
must be set aside in order to have a constructive dialog which Ham has been 
unwilling
to do. Mainly because his entire belief system rests apon it. This is why 
discussing
the "reality of God" with Ham in particular usually does not further our 
understanding
of Quality very much.
I think the topic is an interesting one and may be formed around quality ideas 
but until
the objective context is divorced from the dialog, there really is not much to 
be gained from the topic.