[MD] Through a glass darkly

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Thu Feb 17 15:50:06 PST 2011


Thanks Adrie,
Interesting review
Several comments:
Life is fine-tuned for the universe, not the other way around.

Technically we are at the "center" of the universe.

Yes, we can be seen as dark glasses, I prefer that we are one of the
many eyes of God, as Ham and I have been writing.

Cheers,
Mark

On Wednesday, February 16, 2011, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Found an interesting piece concerning Hawking's model dependent realism.
>
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> http://www.galilean-library.org/site/index.php/page/index.html/_/reviews/the-grand-design-by-stephen-hawking-r124
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> very remarkable is to read the darkly glass analogy, presented in this
> context
> by David Misialowski (author), in his endsentence.
>
> "we are the glass", of course in context with the article he is presenting.
> greetzz.
> Adrie
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> 2011/1/31 david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
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>>
>> Mary said:
>> ...I think Pirsig says mainly that there is a great deal more to reality
>> than we can define or differentiate.  Another way to put that might be to
>> say that we create our reality from our experiences.  We see through the
>> glass darkly and are unable to experience the entirety of all possible
>> realities.  DMB says we dip our ladle into the stream of Quality and what we
>> come back with we call reality.
>>
>> dmb says:
>> It might interest you to know that the line "through a glass darkly" was
>> delivered by Socrates in Plato's "Phaedrus".
>> In ZAMM there is an analogy wherein reality as we know it conceptually is
>> just a handful of sand taken from the surrounding landscape of awareness. As
>> he explain it, there is no way we could ever notice more than a small part
>> of that landscape. I think this is parallel to James's analogy wherein
>> buckets full of water are taken from the ongoing stream of experience. In
>> both cases the idea is that our conceptualizations exist in relation to a
>> much larger field of consciousness and we notice the part that we do because
>> of our culture and personal history.
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