[MD] Apologies for Dropped Threads

[Ian Glendinning]

Matt said ...
"I guess I don't see what the hubbub is."

My point precisely.
Ian

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Matt Kundert
<pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Ian,
>
> Matt said:
> I applaud [Steve's] good answer to the "mere conversation" slogan
> this is: "Of course conversation is not excluded from experience, but
> what you fail to get is that nothing is excluded from conversation."
> What's great about this is that it catches exactly how the two,
> conversation and experience, are inverses of each other.  Just as
> part of our experience is conversation, so can conversation be
> _about_ anything.
>
> Ian said:
> JUST as conversation is "part of" our experience,
> SO experience is NOT "part of" conversation,
> This is NOT a simple inverse relation.
>
> [Direct] experience IS excluded from conversation; it can be no more
> than the subject the conversation is ABOUT. Clearly a conversation
> can be ABOUT ANY experience, but that conversation is not that
> experience.
>
> Matt:
> I guess I don't see what the hubbub is.