[MD] Apologies for Dropped Threads

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

Sorry , chomo's =,child molesters.

Here we have a model as where the gypsies laws are allowed their own laws
when not in conflict with the native laws, bit like the unincorporated
territory's of america, guam, yap, midway etc

2011/1/6 Matt Kundert <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com>

>
> Hi Andrie,
>
> Andrie said:
> My opinion about Steve having the right opinion, in an analythikal line
> of reasoning, and you having the correct line in an inductive reasoning,
> and about David on top of the pyramid because he was making the
> correct balance between the two,using them at the same time
> altogether, i have to maintain. I think its a very straight conclusion.
>
> Matt:
> That's certainly fair enough, though this "straight conclusion" is the
> exact reason I don't think you have quite a handle on what Steve and
> I are saying.  Mainly I have a hard time figuring out where the
> opinion came from (I have really no clue what you are picking out
> when you say Steve falls into "analytic" and me into "inductive"), but
> partly because it continues that sense that the Rortyan pragmatism
> Steve and I are representing is unbalanced in some vague way I don't
> understand, which is Dave's main point, I take it, against Rorty.
> Similar to my response to Ian, thinking Rortyan pragmatism is
> unbalanced is pretty much the same as thinking that James was
> unbalanced because he didn't write more literary criticism, produce
> more paintings, or conduct more scientific experiments.  It would
> seem to miss the point of what he was doing.
>
> Also, with your story about European gypsies, while I have a hard
> time understanding what you meant in your recapitulation of my
> story about me and my girlfriend (I have no clue what you meant
> when you said my girlfriend said, "let kill some chomo's' on our
> way"--particularly because "chomo" is not an English word, though
> you appear to have attached a definite meaning to it), I do often
> think about the general dynamics of community-inclusion/exclusion:
> who counts, does it matter, and what do we do if it does?  For
> example, with Mormons, they may have their own communal
> discourse for morality, but I think the only way a democracy
> survives is if the legal apparatus of the state trumps all particular,
> local communities (such that Mormons and various modern
> nomadic communities ("gypsies") are, whether they acknowledge
> it or not, subject to the same laws as everyone else).
>
> Matt
>
> p.s.  I agree with you that "Quality is timeless" in the sense you are
> using it, but would emphasize that along these lines, my point was
> that _articulations_ of Quality are not, and that Pirsig's particular
> articulations belonged to a different era (which I would probably
> place in the 19th C. these days were I to make such a
> pronouncement).
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