[MD] Changes in 2011

[MarshaV]

On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:12 AM, X Acto wrote:

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> Subject: Re: [MD] Changes in 2011
> 
> Marsha to Andre quoting Anthony's PhD:
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> "In consequence, Pirsig thought ‘Quality’ was better divided metaphysically into the Dynamic and static – primarily because the aesthetic, mystic and scientific aspects of reality can be taken account of by this dichotomy and, as the Dynamic is the essential nature of the static, there remains, essentially, only one reality of Quality, not two. This division of Quality into the Dynamic and static also assists his metaphysics to explain why an experience of a record or a painting can be variable depending on the viewer."
>    (McWatt, Anthony, 'A Critical Analysis of Robert Pirsig’s Metaphysics of Quality', p.70) 
> 
> and:
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> In Buddhism it is Form is Emptiness, Emptiness is Form.
>     (Heart Sutra)
> 
> Andre:
> So? Is this your 'evidence' or justification for saying DQ=sq? And, if so, how 
> does this add to Pirsig's MOQ? By making a distinction between DQ and sq did 
> Pirsig commit a grave error?
> 
> Ron:
> This seems to be what is being wrestled with, the arrival at the idea that forms 
> are empty of material objective "permanance" which is useful in breaking a static 
> conventional prejudice,but once the point has been made, what sort of meaning
> is wrought by resting on it?
>  
> Philosophical discussions should begin here, not end.  
>  

Marsha:
Here's another interesting quote from the MoQ Textbook where:

"Nagarjuna and Pirsig also have a similar recognition of two types of truth; the ‘static’ conventional truth (sammuti-sacca) and the ‘Dynamic’ ultimate truth (paramattha-sacca).
I am confused.  My answer may contain ideas about the intellectual level, SOM and reification, and I have been told we are not hear to learn what I think, but to learn what RMP thinks."  
       (MoQ Textbook, p102)

But I am confused.  My response may contain ideas about the intellectual level, SOM and reification, and I have been told we are not hear to learn what I think, but to learn what RMP thinks.  








 
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