[MD] The Dynamics of Value
Ham Priday
hampday1 at verizon.net
Mon Jan 17 23:03:01 PST 2011
On Mon, Jan. 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Craig <craigb at comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm all for "the cause-and-effect precept of finitude in
> space/time", but how does it allegedly lead to the paradox
> of infinite regression? Do you have an argument for that?
>
> [Ham]
>> You expressed [the argument] above when you said
>> "a creator cannot create itself."
>
> This is a true statement, but not the requisite argument.
>
> [Ham]
>> If everything has a cause, then who or
>> what caused the Creator? The paradox, of course, is that
>> the law of 'cause-and-effect' applied to metaphysics would
>> hold that there is no primary source because an infinite series
>> of "causes" is required to create the Creator. The idea of the
>> first cause being an "uncreated" source seems to have eluded
>> the philosophers.
>
> [Ham, reconstructed]
> 1) If everything has a cause, there must already have been an
> infinite series of causes
> 2) There cannot already have been an infinite series of causes
> 3) :. Not everything has a cause
> 4) Every cause has a source/creator
> 5) :. There must have been an uncreated source/creator
>
> So it seems that "the cause-and-effect precept of finitude in
> space/time", does not lead to the paradox of infinite regression
> (as you claimed), but rather to the conclusion that 5) There must
> have been an uncreated source/creator? But that "There must
> have been an uncreated source/creator" does not entail there
> still is one.
I didn't say there could not have been an infinite series of causes, but
that this precondition is an "infinite regression". I think most logicians
would view that as a paradox. The temporal issue implied by "is" and "was"
does not affect an immutable source. Following Meister Eckhart's precept, I
have posited Essence as Absolute 'IS-ness', which equates to "eternal".
But thanks for your thoughtful analysis, Craig. You've provided logical
support for an uncreated Source.
Best regards,
Ham
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