[MD] Quality and the Higgs Field: An Analogy

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Thu Jan 27 11:12:19 PST 2011


Hi Adrie,
Thanks for your input to my analogy.  However, it seems that your
reply seems more about Critical linguists than anything productive.
Perhaps it was written to show how much you know more than anything
else.  More below.

On Thursday, January 27, 2011, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> The naming godparticle is derived from the fact that it is so incredible
> goddamn difficult to observe the particle, according to Peter  Higgs,and
> nothing else,...
> today however the particle is seen as a field, osccilating between
> existence/nonexistence.The field fills in the properties for all other
> particle's and
> fields.

(Mark)
How the name came about is not as interesting as our interpretation of
it within MoQ.  I am presenting it as an analogy.
>
> so the naming god-particle ,..is a myth, nothing else.

(Mark)
I am not sure your use of Myth is correct.  Please explain.
>
> But if you like the analogy, see it as a balloon, expanding at lightspeed
> with you in the centerspot, also mirrored into the non-existence of
> deflating at lightspeed
> inwards the core of the field an beyond it.

(mark)
this could be an interesting point, but I do not see it.  To make your
response useful and relevant to the rest of us, please explain how
this relates to MoQ.

Cheers,
Mark
>
> 2011/1/27 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Some of us like to tie ideas from physics into MoQ.  I know that
>> Pirsig does.  This post brings in the analogy of the Higgs Field.
>>
>> The Higgs Field was conceived of in the 1960's by none other than
>> Higgs.  The basic premise of such a field is that it creates and
>> differentiates between particles.  It can be seen as kind of a drag on
>> enery, slowing it down.  So it, theoretically (or is it
>> metaphysically?), provides the differentiation between all the quarks
>> and all the leptons.  From these differences comes all the other
>> things which we experience as matter.  Thus, it could be said that
>> lead and gold are ultimately differentiated by the Higgs Field.
>> Without such a field, all matter would be the same as energy.  It is
>> theorized that at very high temperatures, the Higgs Field disappears,
>> that is, that there is no difference, and no mass either.  In fact,
>> this is often used to describe the beginning of the universe, if such
>> a thing is imagined.  Now, how does the Higgs Field differentiate
>> matter?  Well that is supposed to be through the Higgs Particle, or
>> the Higgs Boson as it is called.  Because of its importance to
>> everything we see, such a particle is also called the God Particle.
>> Tthat is the metaphysics of physics, supported by math of course, and
>> colliders have been built to look for it, if the theory is still
>> favorable.
>>
>> So imagine, if you will, something called Quality.  It is through
>> Quality that things exist separately.  This Quality is what provides
>> all the qualitative differences between things.  By way of analogy,
>> Quality would be a field which creates the value between things.  If
>> all things were the same, there would be no Quality.  Quality is what
>> separates and differentiates.  The manner in which Quality interacts
>> with Sameness is what provides us with values and morals.  It is what
>> provides us with choices.  Therefore, one should not look at things as
>> having Quality.  Rather it is what separates those things that has the
>> Quality.  As a field, it is utterly dynamic, and leaves a static world
>> in its wake.  Such Quality has more existence than what it creates,
>> since it is the foundation of all.  The static world is a byproduct of
>> the movement of Quality.  So, my friends, look between (not subjects,
>> not objects) and there is your answer.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
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