[MD] Intuition?

[118]

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Hi Mark,
>
> On Jul 4, 2011, at 2:30 AM, 118 wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:49 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:25 AM, 118 wrote:
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>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>
>>>> As you know, Buddha did not write anything.  Neither did Socrates or
>>>> Jesus.  So, all we have are interpretations by others of what he is
>>>> claimed to have said.  This is important since it was claimed to be
>>>> recognized by Buddha that words only delimit.
>>>>
>>>> I am not quite sure what you mean by intuition.  Is it instinct?
>>>> Perhaps intuition is shared awareness.  I have sensed that something
>>>> was happening to someone I cared about.
>>>
>>> Marsha:
>>> No this is not what I meant.  Mindfulness is what I meant.  Where the good
>>> is unfolding, naturally.  That is what I mean.
>>
>> [Mark]
>> OK, gotcha.  I also call this living entirely in the present, or living in DQ.
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>
> Marsha:
> I am reluctant to say that is 'living in DQ'; mindfulness, or awareness seems
> a good description.  I've had what I would call unpatterned experiences, and
> I wouldn't even call them DQ experiences.

[Mark]
Yes, difficult to wrap in words because then you hide it.  But, this
appears to be what Pirsig is talking about in terms of DQ.  I have no
idea what an unpatterned experience is.  Doesn't experience denote a
pattern?  DQ experiences, that might be a good way to put it, but take
away the plural since it is continuous.  Maybe what you mean is a
pattern that has no confines.  Is that it?

>
>
>>>> I listen to the birds every morning when I wake up.  This is a form of
>>>> shared awareness for by listening I create.
>>>
>>> When Siegfried was able to understand the birdsong, he was in
>>> tune with intuition.  "The woodbird now sings of a woman sleeping
>>> on a rock surrounded by magic fire. Siegfried, wondering if he can
>>> learn fear from this woman, heads toward the mountain."  Don't you
>>> just love it!!!
>>
>> You might like the Wind-up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami.  It is
>> an intense but rewarding read.  After reading that, I read all his
>> other books.
>>
>> Here is a link to a review:
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>> http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/11/02/reviews/971102.02jamest.html
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> Marsha:
> I'll give the book a try.  Speaking of music, the other day I was listening to
> Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, and I couldn't help think of entering into the
> music as a river.

[Mark]
Yes, I love it, especially the last part.  Pretty rough river aye?
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>
> Marsha
>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Cheers,
>>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
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