[MD] Free Will
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Sun Jul 10 12:30:15 PDT 2011
Greetings Good Dan Glover,
On Jul 10, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Dan Glover wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:50 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "To the extent that one's behavior is
>> controlled by static patterns of quality it is without choice. But to the extent
>> that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's behavior is free."
>> (LILA, Chapter 12)
>>
>>
>> Here's a way to look at it: 'To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by the freewill (a static pattern of value) it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's behavior is free.'
>
> Dan:
>
> I am not sure what you're getting at. Is this a typo, perhaps? Yes,
> free will is a static pattern of value. But so is everything. Every
> "thing" that is, except Dynamic Quality. Static patterns of quality
> determine our lives. Dynamic Quality makes our lives better.
>
>>
>> Marsha:
>> But there is also this:
>>
>> "In a subject-object classification of the world, Quality is in the same situation as that platypus. Because they can't classify it the experts have claimed there is something wrong with it. And Quality isn't the only such platypus. Subject-object metaphysics is characterized by herds of huge, dominating, monster platypi. The problems of free will versus determinism, of the relation of mind to matter, of the discontinuity of matter at the sub-atomic level, of the apparent purposelessness of the universe and the life within it are all monster platypi created by the subject-object metaphysics..."
>> (LILA, Chapter 8)
>
> Dan:
>
> Yes, there is that. But what exactly are you getting at? I don't see
> any commentary.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dan
A little after the Chapter 8 quote, "These creatures that seem like such a permanent part of the philosophical landscape magically disappear when a good Metaphysics of Quality is applied."
If this issues is deemed a huge, dominating, monstrous, som, platypus that the MoQ removes, on what basis would you like to continue the discussion? Is there a clear new question being formulated for discussion?
Marsha
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