[MD] Does Lila have free will?

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Marsha and all,

When emotions are viewed as DQ, for me the biggest question is HOW.  In some
way I have to train my perceptions to avoid definition and roll with
experience, Thank you! Pirsig!

I am all on fire, sometimes, realizing I know nothing.  I struggle to
experience the undefined.  I can tell no one and I squirm under my burden,
realizing I have not been taught to look at that.  I try teaching myself,
under the flag of: Whoever teaches themselves is taught by a fool!

Joe 


On 7/13/11 11:38 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> It's all analogy - biology, chemistry, emotions - all the way down,,, when
> named.  
> Amazing.  Tonight is E-minor, blue - diamonds and rust.  I need to cry, but
> can't.  
> 
> So MU.   
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
> 
>> Hi Steve, Marsha and all,
>> 
>> 
>> Between "external duty, and internal duty" seems to encompass everything.
>> Perhaps, viewing emotions as DQ places them beyond internal duty?  When
>> emotions are defined SQ, they cease to be emotions.  Emotions cannot be
>> defined as DQ since DQ in itself is indefinable.  Emotions are a different
>> name in biology for DQ.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/13/11 8:14 AM, "Steven Peterson" <peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> 
>>> Marsha:
>>> I just don't get the insistence on MY free-will.  As far as the
>>> ethical considerations, these statements make the most sense to me.
>>>> 
>>>> "Dharma, like rta, means 'what holds together.' It is the basis of all
>>>> order.
>>>> It equals righteousness. It is the ethical code. It is the stable condition
>>>> which gives man perfect satisfaction.
>>>> 
>>>> "Dharma is duty. It is not external duty which is arbitrarily imposed by
>>>> others. It is not any artificial set of conventions which can be amended or
>>>> repealed by legislation. Neither is it internal duty which is arbitrarily
>>>> decided by one's own conscience. Dharma is beyond all questions of what is
>>>> internal and what is external. Dharma is Quality itself, the principle of
>>>> 'rightness' which gives structure and purpose to the evolution of all life
>>>> and to the evolving understanding of the universe which life has created."
>>>> 
>>>>        (LILA, Chapter 30)
>>>> 
>>>> So MU.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve:
>>> NIce job digging up this quote. I love how it specifically backs our
>>> point that dropping internal/external considerations like SOM free
>>> will/determism do not negate moral structure and purpose. It is
>>> irrelevant to duty--what dmb surely means by moral responsibility.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Steve
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