[MD] What is illusion?

[MarshaV]

Mark,

I just offered it as something to think about.   


Marsha 





On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:39 PM, 118 wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I have before me "Mysterio's Encyclopedia of Magic and Conjuring: A
> complete compendium of Astonishing Illusions".  Mysterio died suddenly
> in 1936.  There is a possibility that he died as a result of deciding
> to publish an encyclopedia of trade secrets in 1936.  However, sadly
> Mysterio died during one of his performances.  Therefore I caution
> anybody who cares to reveal what an illusion is, to be cautious and
> not perform any magic tricks again.  Always check your car brakes, and
> never leave a drink unattended at a spontaneous warehouse party.
> 
> Having said that, I am not a magician.  Many have claimed that an
> illusion is something that does not exist.  This is termed a delusion
> (and Horse agrees).  An illusion must be of something recognizable.
> Therefore an illusion must be of something real.  If it is real, then
> it exists.  If it exists, then it is not a delusion, but a mistake in
> awareness.  When we speak of illusion, it is always necessary to state
> what something is an illusion of.  Otherwise the sentence does not
> point to anything and one is left hanging in the rafters of some magic
> performance that somehow went bad.
> 
> Regards,
> Mark
> 
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 1:00 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> 
>> Here's one way to analyze the concept of illusion as presented by Miri Albahari:
>> 
>>  "I begin by analysing the concept of ILLUSION and then in a later section, that of a CONSTRUCT.  The possible application of these concepts to the self will become apparent as discussions proceeds.
>> 
>>  "Most generally, an illusion involves a conflict between appearance and reality.  Sometimes, X, appears to be the case, but there is something about X that does not reflect reality, it MISLEADS the person to whom it appears.  In other works, X PURPORTS, through the appearance, to exist in a particular manner, than X does NOT REALLY exist in the purported manner.  More formally:
>> 
>>   "When X purports (through a medium of appearance) to exist in manner F,
>>    to person P, X-as-F is illusory when X does not really exist in manner F."
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> This analysis of illusion is to be applied to the question of the difference between 'self' and 'sense of self'.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
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