[MD] The Quality of Free Will

[MarshaV]

Dave,

Don't be silly, there is the conventional (static) self, the small self.  I'm 
sure that is what the Dalai Lama was suggesting.  Non-self, as I 
understand it, means no independent, autonomous self; no inherently 
existing self.  I've made that clear many times.  

And I doubt that I was "pissed off".  


Marsha 


On Jul 18, 2011, at 4:15 PM, David Thomas wrote:

> On 7/18/11 2:22 PM, "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Eastern mysticism seems to be more about
>> psychology and the art of self-control through meditation than about
>> philosophy or metaphysics.
>> 
>> Pirsig allegedly got his inspiration for the MoQ from Zen Buddhism.  But
>> when he and Marsha (who also studies Orientalism) conclude that there is no
>> self, I begin to despair that there is any hope left for Western Philosophy..
> 
> Dave
> Or, oh horror, the real current Dalai Lama on the Today show, today, talking
> about the US debt limit debacle saying, "No matter what, Americans must not
> lose their SELF-confidence."
> 
> I once paraphrased to Marsha that I saw him in a TV clip snap at a
> questioner who asked him some question about the Buddhist principle of
> "no-self."I said, because I did not have access to the clip, He said
> something like (and this really pissed her off), "If you have no self, who
> is it that is going to change?"
> 
> Apostasically your,
> Dave
> 
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