[MD] The Quality of Free Will
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Wed Jul 20 15:26:25 PDT 2011
On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Ham Priday wrote:
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> On Wed, July 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM, "Steven Peterson" <peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> To assert that the self "exists DEPENDENTLY" is to deny
>> the free will horn of the traditional free will versus determinism
>> dilemma since the whole big deal there was always about
>> whether or not an INDEPENDENT self can assert itself,
>> i.e. exercise it's free will. Obviously a value-based metaphysics
>> also denies the determinism horn of the traditional SOM
>> dilemma as well. ...
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> What you have concluded above is only half true. The BEING of an individual exists dependently; the SELF of that being is independent (free).
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> Sensible awareness, despite the brain and nervous system that supports it, is not itself a biological entity. Neither are thoughts, concepts, or values. So you can forget about the "mini-computer 'I' inside your head" and start realizing that the world "outside" you (beingness) is a product of your Value, instead of the other way around. Each of us IS an autonomous Self with the freedom to choose and the power to objectivize every aspect of physical reality.
Hi Ham,
What evidence can you offer that each of us is an autonomous (independent; not subject to control from outside) being?
> In the absence of sensible awareness there is no being, no experiential (i.e., empirical) reality. Pirsig himself said as much when he wrote that "experience is the leading edge of reality."
I see no necessity that awareness/experience requires autonomy. What is the basis of this statement?
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> Valuistically speaking,
> Ham
Thank you,
Marsha
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