[MD] The Quality of Free Will
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ununoctiums at gmail.com
Mon Jul 25 23:41:02 PDT 2011
Hi Dan
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, again, I think RMP has moved past James in ways that agree with
> James' work. James (for one thing) never postulated that reality is
> composed of value. He seemed to feel that experience HAD value but he
> didn't make the connection that experience IS value. So, yes, they
> might well be on the same page but RMP is further along in his
> thinking.
>
Personally I do not think that James and Pirsig belong in the same
category. Sure, there are some similarities in terms of Experience,
but this is also true of all religions. Pirsig does comment on
similarities, but I believe this is more like his similarities with
Poincare. Starting from opposite ends and meeting in the middle or
top of the mountain. James starts from the ground up; he is the
father of modern Western psychology. This is pure induction. Pirsig
starts with the Grand, and then breaks it down: deduction. Both, of
course, subscribe to mystical interpretations, but while James
attributes it to a function of the brain, Pirsig attributes it to a
function of Quality. James subscribes to a Pluralistic universe,
Pirsig subscribes to a Monistic universe.
Just my 2 cents, thanks for your posts.
Mark
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