[MD] The Quality of Free Will
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Wed Jul 27 09:36:21 PDT 2011
Greetings Mark,
I used most purposively the phrase "neither this, nor that".
I know very little about Taoism, but always find your opinions
quite interesting.
Marsha
On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:02 PM, 118 wrote:
> Hi Marsha,
> In my opinion, Not This, Not That is pointing at something. This is
> not what is stated in the Diamond Sutra. That Sutra is mainly
> concerned with servitude to all sentient beings. The Bodhidarma's
> incarnation is not satisfied (free of "suffering") until this is
> achieved. Of course it never is because of wayward man.
>
> If you do want to point at something, it is both feminine and
> masculine. Yin is feminine (giving) and Yang is masculine (taking).
> Or, as Father Tyresius, would say: "Once as a man as the earth I
> raged; once a woman as the sea I gave; but there is in fact more earth
> than sea."
>
> At least you are half-right in my book.
>
> I am glad that you find it clearly, I have a hard time expressing the
> mystical. It is through a tall dark glass clearly for me.
>
> Namaste,
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:24 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:55 AM, 118 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> Your finding Nada may be a function of how you are looking for it. If
>>> you use standard Subject/Object metaphysics, then of course you will
>>> find nothing. In the same way that Atman cannot be found in that way.
>>> This is one reason why Pirsig does not like that metaphysics.
>>> However, if you look beyond that metaphysics, believe me you will find
>>> it. Keep hunting, you will see it at at some totally random normal
>>> time, this is called enlightenment. There is nothing special about
>>> finding it. You will wonder why you didn't see it before since it is
>>> so simple. It really does exist. I cannot help you since you are far
>>> away.
>>>
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:20 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> It is still speculation and under investigation, but I cannot find anything INHERENTLY existing. Nada. And I'm not sure what face of Buddha you think I am aiming for. What do you think of the witnessing experience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Far away, which everybody knows is relative, nada & "spiritual rationalism"
>> can be found in the Diamond Sutra: neither this, nor that. It is feminine.
>> Lila, in chapter 14, states it clearly.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
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