[MD] The other side of Value

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Hi Ham, Ron,

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Ham Priday <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> [Ham]:
>>
>> My conclusion: Essence is negational.
>
> [Ron]:
>>
>> How about limit, for any experience to have any meaning,
>> it's much easier to explain and it works logically but your
>> explanation above is, well, inconsistant, illogical and unclear.
>> Essence can't be negational if it is absolute. Otherwise you
>> render the term "absolute" meaningless. Absolute is absolute
>> Ham, not just when it's convieniant to be in certain contexts.
>
> "Limit" is exactly what I'm talking about, Ron.  Nothingness is what limits
> experience to Value, and what differentiates essential value into the
> relative entities experienced.  Moreover, nothingness (by definition) is not
> an entity, so your suggestion that I'm "pulling a sleight of hand" trick by
> inserting "a second entity" into the equation is ill-founded.

[Mark]
The concept of limit has interesting applications to MoQ and by
corollary to Essentialism.  The term has different uses, and its use
in elementary calculus has applications to our metaphysical
discussion.  The concept of limit is often used in differential
calculus.  In a equation which puts Y as a function of X, Y can be
determined as X tends towards infinity or towards zero (or towards any
fixed value such as 2).  This is termed the value of Y as X
"approaches" a limit.  Now Y has a defined value which comes from the
differential equation.  However, the equation for Y is not a defined
value.  This is because X can never reach infinity, or cannot reach
zero, but only approach them indefinitely.  Therefore, we have a
static value which is defined by a dynamic equation.  The singular
point for which Y can be solved is a function of an endless equation,
a summation series, if you will.

So, in terms of MoQ, we can have a singular defined static value which
is created by dynamic value.  This ability of the dynamic to define
the static is one of the hallmarks of MoQ.  We could say that static
quality is left in the wake of dynamic quality.  It is thrown aside in
the same way that a comet leaves behind a tail.  The analogy of the
comet brings up the equality of dynamic quality and the moment.  The
moment is the head of the comet, and the static is the debri left
over.  It is possible to live in both the dynamic moment and in the
tail of memory.  In fact both are desirable, although, one cannot live
in both at the same time.  This is because there is a very real
distinction between static quality and dynamic quality, no matter what
some may mistakenly postulate.

>[Ham]
> Once you accept an Absolute Source as the primary reality, whatever exists
> must logically be a reduction of that source.  The only way Essence can
> bring forth existence is to "absent or exclude itself" from the entity
> created.  In other words, the power of creation lies in negation.  Which is
> to say, Absolute Essence is negational.  And the nothingness of that
> negation is the "limiting" factor of differentiated existence.
>
> As Mark correctly points out, I am NOT treating Essence as "partial": only
> Value is divisible.  Value is an aspect of the Absolute Source which the
> sensible agent differentiates to actualize its "world of appearances".
> Physical reality is thus a synthesis of nothingness and value actualized
> experientially by the value-sensible agent.  All  contradiction, opposition,
> and bipolarity are experienced in the world of appearances, and are not
> attributes or properties of metaphysical reality.
>
> Thanks for yor assistance, Mark.
> Ham
>
Cheers,
Mark
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