[MD] The other side of reified

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed Jun 8 06:23:34 PDT 2011


Hello again Mark,

If you were suggesting that 'gravitation' refers to a particular static pattern 
of value, what exactly comprises (every last bit of it) that pattern?  

Can such a question be answered?  If yes, what is the answer?  If no,
why not?  

You might understand why, at the moment, I best the answer: 
opposite-from-non-gravitation.  And sometimes I like to think of a 
pattern as a cloud of probability.  


Marsha




On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:37 AM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> Mark,
> 
> You ask a strange question.  'Gravitation' is a word; It  may be the name of a cat, 
> dog or horse, or a conceptual theory.  At the very least it participates in a linguistic 
> process.  
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 

> 
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, 118 wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha,
>> Is gravitation a process?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here is my (conventional/static) definition of static patterns of value:
>>> 
>>>  Static patterns of value are processes: impermanent, 
>>>  interdependent, ever-changing. (Not objects. Not subjects.  
>>>  Not things-in-themselves.)  Overlapping, interconnected, 
>>>  ever-changing processes that pragmatically tend to persist 
>>>  and change within a stable, predictable pattern.   
>>> 
>>> Here's my (conventional/static) definition of reification:  
>>> 
>>>  Reification means treating any functioning phenomenon 
>>>  as if it were a real, permanent 'thing', rather than an 
>>>  impermanent process."
>>> 
>>> Reification represents how the common man, and many scientists, 
>>> academics and even philosophers conceptualize.  It evolved as a tool to 
>>> facilitate some kind of betterness.  But it is flawed and of course the MoQ 
>>> and help rectify the flaw.  I have suggested that reification is either a part 
>>> of the conceptualization process, or that there is a interdependency 
>>> between conceptualization and reification.   
>>> 
>>> But, of course, you are correct Mary.  Both 'conceptualization' and  
>>> 'reification' are static patterns of value, conventional (relative) truths. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha  



 
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