[MD] cloud of probability

Dan Glover daneglover at gmail.com
Fri Jun 10 23:12:23 PDT 2011


Hello everyone

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:59 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Dan Glover wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:35 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Dan Glover wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:07 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha said:
>>>>> ...at the moment, I think the best answer would be: all-that-is-opposite-from-non-gravitation, and I sometimes visualize the pattern as a cloud of probability.
>>>>>
>>>>> dmb:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Definitions are the FOUNDATION of reason. You can't reason without them." (Emphasis is Pirsig's. ZAMM, page 214.)
>>>>>
>>>>> "A metaphysics must be divisible, definable and knowable, or there isn't any metaphysics." (Pirsig in Lila, page 64.)
>>>>
>>>> Dan:
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. Come on, Marsha and Mark. If you want to know what
>>>> gravitation is, look it up. Or even better, try reading ZMM... or
>>>> re-reading it, or whatever it takes to get the ideas contained there
>>>> to sink in.
>>>>
>>>> Good God almighty...
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> There are times when RMP uses words and concepts that go beyond the dictionary definition,
>>> and dictionaries differ.  for instance there are words in German that do not have an equivalent
>>> in English.
>>
>> Dan:
>>
>> Yes, but those German words have to be defined in some fashion,
>> otherwise they're just gibberish. There may not be an equivalent
>> English word, but there are definitions none the less.
>
>
> Marsha:
> About the words that RMP uses uniquely for his own purposes
> in explaining the MoQ?  For instance, the word 'quality' has no
> division, in the dictionary, defined as dynamic or static.  Look it
> up.  And I did post "I use a dictionary all the time.  I agree that
> you cannot reason without definitions."  My point was that
> patterns are more than definitions.

Dan:

Patterns are definitions though.

>
>
>>>
>>> Good Goddess almighty...
>>
>> Yes, I like her too!
>
> Good to hear it!

You know it!

Dan



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