[MD] [Bulk] Re: cloud of probability

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Thu Jun 16 02:10:21 PDT 2011


On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:24 PM, david buchanan wrote:

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> Yep. That's exactly what Pirsig said in his 2005 summary of the MOQ (Which Bo thinks is "stupid"):"The Metaphysics of Quality itself is static and should be separated from the Dynamic Quality it talks about. Like the rest of the printed philosophic tradition it doesn't change from day to day, although the world it talks about does."
> Pirsig says the same thing in ZAMM and Lila and Lila's Child. He's been quite clear and consistent on this point but some people won't see it no matter how many ways it's said.
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> Sigh.


"Moreover, Nagarjuna (1966, p.251) shares Pirsig’s perception that the indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the conditioned (or static:.

    In their ultimate nature things are devoid of conditionedness and 
    contingency belongs to this level. This very truth is revealed by also 
    saying that all things ultimately enter the indeterminate dharma or 
    that within the heart of every conditioned entity (as its core, as its true 
    essence, as its very real nature) there is the indeterminate dharma. 
    While the one expresses the transcendence of the ultimate reality, 
    the other speaks of its immanence. The one says that the ultimate 
    reality is not an entity apart and wholly removed from the determinate, 
    but is the real nature of the determinate itself.

Nagarjuna and Pirsig also have a similar recognition of two types of truth; the ‘static’ conventional truth (sammuti-sacca) and the ‘Dynamic’ ultimate truth (paramattha-sacca)."

      (McWatt,f Anthony, 'AN INTRODUCTION TO ROBERT PIRSIG’S METAPHYSICS OF QUALITY', P. 102)  


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