[MD] Free Will

[Joseph Maurer]

On 6/28/11 1:25 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/26/11 9:55 PM, "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>>> How can free will exist without an independent agent?
>>> How can we be morally responsible if our values (and consequent actions) are
>>> predetermined?
>>> 
>>> Experiential existence hinges on autonomous value-sensibility.  It makes no
>>> sense to argue for or against free will unless you acknowledge that choice
>>> is the option of a free agent.
>>> 
>>> Valuistically speaking,
>>> Ham 
>> 
>> Hi Ham and all,
>> 
>> Pirsig proposes a metaphysics of DQ/SQ.  DQ is indefinable not unknowable.
>> The independent agent is DQ/SQ.  There is something in our actions that
>> enable the indefinable.  Free will enables action and an evolutionary
>> scenario limits free will.  I can't jump on my horse and ride off in all
>> directions!  Predetermination denies a DQ/SQ metaphysics.  I know the
>> indefinable and can act on it through analogy and metaphor.
>> 
>> Joe  
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> You mentioned jumping on a horse and riding off in all directions, what type
> of 
> pattern would that be?
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
Hi Marsha and all,

That would be a pattern denying the reality of DQ emotions.

Joe 
> 
>  
> ___
>  
> 
> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org/md/archives.html