[MD] all that is opposite-from-non-pattern
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Thu Jun 30 00:55:18 PDT 2011
On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
> Hello Marsha
>
> Thanks for your humble answer.
>
> 28 jun 2011 kl. 15.41 Marsho wrote:
>
>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marsha
>>>
>>> 27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not to be repeating myself, I neither accept the notion of freewill, nor reject it. Same goes with determinism and causation. I accept that these are conventional (static) notions, but not Ultimately real. While living within a conventional culture it seems wise to sustain social and biological patterns whenever necessary for one will be held responsible to that level's "moral" code (laws and punishment. )
>>>
>>> Even if you neither accept nor reject it. I really would like to understand what you mean with "The notion of Free Will". Please.
>>>
>>> Jan-Anders
>>
>>
>> Marsha,
>>
>> It means whatever it conventional means. What is the meaning of the pattern named Justice? How would you describe its meaning? How would you describe the meaning of any pattern. I understand static patterns to represent a collection of interdependent, ever-changing particular momentary events (process) which constantly change as they arise, abide and pass away: and as they are continually altered by an individual?s static history and the dynamics of the event. I have mentioned before that I tend also to think of patterns, pattern(x) for instance, to include all-that-is opposite-from-non-pattern(x). That may include a dictionary definition. - The horns of a rabbit might be a static notion or pattern.
>>
>> How well do you think you understand my explanation?
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>
> Not really sure. You intend to sell a Norwegian Blue Parrot?
>
> Try again, please.
>
> Jan-Anders
Jan-Anders,
Within this conventional reality, I tend to think of patterns of value not as fixed or
frozen or reified, but as events or processes, much more fluid and relational.
Defining a spov as all that is opposite-from-non-pattern keeps them closer to
experience in the conventional sense. imho
Marsha
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