[MD] The Dynamics of Value

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Hi David,

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:34 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Ham said to Mark:
> Where is the Quality when you're not pointing?  Nowhere. What happens to Quality when there is nothing to point to, or when there is no one to point?  It disappears.  Quality exists only as a comparative evaluation by a sensible agent.  In short, it's a "comparative" interpretation of relational experience.
> dmb says:
> Excuse me for butting in.
> The notion that quality is subjective, the evaluative judgement of a sensible subject, is not consistent with the MOQ. Instead, every part of reality behaves and acts on the basis of Quality. In that sense, atoms, stars, fishes and dogs are agents pointing to Quality. As James says, "everything gets known by some knower". We're talking about a reality that is entirely noetic, but it is not a single unified consciousness like Hegel's God but rather it is pluralistic, layered, "irreducibly many", "strung along and overlapped". Everything gets known by some knower. It's Quality all the way down.
> If you're interested.
>
[Mark]
Thanks for butting in, and I like what you stated.  Yes, Quality all
the way down (and up), one cannot create a line of differentiation
where such a thing begins or ends.  It is an active process, and very
tangible.  It could be considered unified, but analogies do not do it
justice.  I have been approaching this through infinite set theory (as
an analogy), but even then there are issues.  For example the set of
all sets.  Such a set would encompass itself, and we get the spiraling
of nonsense which indicates that logic is not always appropriate, even
when it comes to math.  Quality pointing at Quality.  This could be
similar to Ham's negation of negation.

I have learned some about James from you, so thanks.

Mark

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