[MD] The Dynamics of Value

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Mar 7 03:42:33 PST 2011


On Mar 7, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Marsha to dmb:
> 
> Maybe you need a reading lesson, because there was no mention in the RMP quote of 'American pragmatism' being an exception.
> 
> Andre:
> Seems to me that you are being obstinately difficult and cantankerous Marsha. Dmb has provided you (in six posts) with clarifications based on sound rhetoric which neatly tie together and (should) dissolve your concern, which, if I remember correctly is that Pirsig's MOQ be 'confined' to the Jamesian tradition.

Marsha:
It's always amusing when the great snarky one starts to whine about being treated meanly.   And it's pretty sad that you post this defense.  

There seems to be some confusion between the word "is" as in dmb's statement "Pirsig says the MOQ is a form of mainstream American pragmatism." and to compare the similarities between the MoQ and mainstream American pragmatism or the Jamesian tradition.   The quote I posted was a RMP dated October 2005 and seems quite clear that the MoQ IS NOT "intended to be within any philosophic tradition".   Dmb should compare and contrast to his heart's contenty; Im sure he'll find many similarities as I did with Buddhism,, but James is not a MoQ expert and neither is Ms. Seigfried.  

I'll post again RMP's statement:

"The Metaphysics of Quality is not intended to be within any philosophic tradition, although obviously it was not written in a vacuum. My first awareness that it resembled James' work came from a magazine review long after “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” was published. The Metaphysics of Quality's central idea that the world is nothing but value is not part of any philosophic tradition that I know of. I have proposed it because it seems to me that when you look into it carefully it makes more sense than all the other things the world is supposed to be composed of. One particular strength lies in its applicability to quantum physics, where substance has been dismissed but nothing except arcane mathematical formulae has really replaced it."  
     (A brief summary of the Metaphysics of Quality, October 2005)
 
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