[MD] MOQ and Gödel's incompleteness theorems

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Hi Adrie,

It would appear that you are using the internet in either a paranoid
or invasive way.  Must keep you busy throughout the day.  There is so
much to find in the way of conspiracies too.  Enjoy.

Mark

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tuukka.
>
> I'm a regular user of the knowledge database called Erowid.org
> Not as a user , but with a big interest in effects of psychofarmaca.
> I recognised the name and a posting on zolpidem , as foto.zolpidem
> is known as hallucinant if abused, if i connect your name to 'drugs' as a
> search term, i can find a zillion hits for Tuukka posting thingy's around
> derived mainly from the erowid vaults.
>
> I do not dissaprove experiments, but for myself, i live by the use of fresh
> air and clear water solely, one exeption ,...Hamburgers, beer,French fries,
> cheese,pie , etc..
> Anyway welkom to the list,Mark will be delighted.
> Adrie
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> 2011/3/8 Tuukka Virtaperko <mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net>
>
>> It would be rather simple to argue that the dynamic-static-division in MOQ
>> is some sort of an informal application of Gödel's incompleteness theorems.
>> According to these theorems, any sufficiently powerful logical system cannot
>> prove it's own completeness unless it is inconsistent. And if a system
>> cannot prove it's own completeness, there are statements in the system which
>> cannot be proven true or false. Some sources (Wikipedia, "Gödel, Escher,
>> Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid") claim that these statements are true but
>> unprovable, but I'm under the impression that this is not the case. Instead,
>> their truth value cannot be determined. If others are in doubt, I can
>> investigate this further.
>>
>> What happens if you change "true" and "false" into "good" and "evil"? A
>> "logical system" turns into an intellectual static value pattern, and an
>> unprovable statement turns into an act whose moral value cannot be
>> determined from within the system. And if the act is good, it is Dynamic
>> Quality. This is MOQ. Right?
>>
>> -Tuukka
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